What the FFFF is up with this " too nice" Bull...
I am too nice and I pride my self in that. However I have noticed that the nice guy doesn’t get laid a whole lot, this part sucks, I for one would love to find a girl who I could just be with, them and them alone but sadly I find my self here at a time in my age when the girls that I want to share this with ether don't know what the FFFF they want or they just don’t give a SSSS about anyone or anything and live there life with no care, drugs, cars, money, or even friends that they hurt have no consequence that they can see will affect them, or is it that they just don't care? Ether way I get treated like SSSS and I am tired of it... Damn it I got to get laid, I have only got sex 4 times in the last month, and it has been a week scene the last time, damn it my libido is taking a big hit, I am finding it hard to function when I cant satisfy my hard.
I was hanging out with a friend of mine just having a few drinks when he told me, " I used to be just like you, respectful, reserved, polite, the typical nice guy, then I realized that it doesn’t pay off at the end of the night, woman want an asshole..." and you know what I think he is right if I want to get laid and respected I just need to let go and say FFFF it, let it all fly, tell a girl I want to FFFF her if I want to, with his method he gets more play in one week that I have got in the past three years. Is that it, is that the big secret to women, do I just need to be a complete ass?
If you got a better plan please let me know, like I told him, it goes against all that I am to be an ass to women, but I have tried everything respectful, I am just tired of being alone in the sex department....
Any thoughts? Anyone?
I am too nice and I pride my self in that. However I have noticed that the nice guy doesn’t get laid a whole lot, this part sucks, I for one would love to find a girl who I could just be with, them and them alone but sadly I find my self here at a time in my age when the girls that I want to share this with ether don't know what the FFFF they want or they just don’t give a SSSS about anyone or anything and live there life with no care, drugs, cars, money, or even friends that they hurt have no consequence that they can see will affect them, or is it that they just don't care? Ether way I get treated like SSSS and I am tired of it... Damn it I got to get laid, I have only got sex 4 times in the last month, and it has been a week scene the last time, damn it my libido is taking a big hit, I am finding it hard to function when I cant satisfy my hard.
I was hanging out with a friend of mine just having a few drinks when he told me, " I used to be just like you, respectful, reserved, polite, the typical nice guy, then I realized that it doesn’t pay off at the end of the night, woman want an asshole..." and you know what I think he is right if I want to get laid and respected I just need to let go and say FFFF it, let it all fly, tell a girl I want to FFFF her if I want to, with his method he gets more play in one week that I have got in the past three years. Is that it, is that the big secret to women, do I just need to be a complete ass?
If you got a better plan please let me know, like I told him, it goes against all that I am to be an ass to women, but I have tried everything respectful, I am just tired of being alone in the sex department....
Any thoughts? Anyone?
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Re: TOO NICE? WHAT THE FFFF IS THAT?
Mon, March 7, 2005 - 8:58 AMwell i s'pose if all ya want is sex then sure why not be an ass. the girls might respond to it but they may not be so nice either.
i love nice guys. but im not looking for just a f*ck. lol so i guess that doesnt count eh. lol.
so i guess it depends on what you want. and it sounds like all ya want is to get laid. lol -
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Re: TOO NICE? WHAT THE FFFF IS THAT?
Mon, March 7, 2005 - 8:56 PMI want to get laid, but I want to get laid from a steady girlfriend, I am just having difficulty finding someone who wants the same....
I guess I need to figure out what it is exactly I want before I go asking... it is just hard to put in to words.... I'm just tired of being dicked around... just tired of hearing "I wish I could just meet a nice guy..." only to see them go after the guys that treat them like SSSS and wonder why... -
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Re: TOO NICE? WHAT THE FFFF IS THAT?
Mon, March 7, 2005 - 9:38 PMOur moderator is one of my best friends. He is always telling me to embrace my inner asshole, because being a "nice guy" will get me stepped on. He's not saying to be an ass all the time but throw the southern gentlemen crap out the window and don't go outta my way to be nice.
It seems that today the rules of courting a lady are totally different than they used to be. I personally think that a lot of ladies today like the challenge of conquering a man who doesn't seem to want them. -
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Re: TOO NICE? WHAT THE FFFF IS THAT?
Mon, March 14, 2005 - 2:16 PMPersonally, I've felt the 'nice guy' problem from the other end. But I didn't go for assholes.
It's about confidence, and charisma. And yes, often times the nice guys don't display either, while the assholes do. It's a hard balance, strutting like a rooster while refraining from beating up the other cocks. So to speak. ;)
I didn't want an asshole, I wanted someone who knew who he was. I didn't need someone who didn't want me, I needed someone who knew where he stood, and wanted me to come along- but wasn't going to cling.
Often times the romance is wonderful. With little touches, little gestures. I don't want to be a princess, don't put me on a pedestal. Treat me like your friend, then throw in those sweet bits, at the right time.
In a good relationship yes there's romance, but sometimes the trash needs taking out or I want to talk about your day, or I'm bloated and cranky and all your sugary chivalry comes off as insincere.
We want to be mommies to children, not to the boys we date. We don't want boys. We want men.
My husband was the first guy I'd ever met who went out into life and tried to improve himself. I have a handful of wonderful, intelligent, sweet male friends who ALL have the same complaint. And if they'd just show a TOUCH of self confidence, a little swagger, a bit of a grin- they'd have the girl they wanted in a heartbeat.
Unless of course she was a nasty @#*&! and couldn't see my big, beasty, brainy, sweet-hearted men for the fabulous people they are. And if that's your problem, you're swimming in the wrong fish pond.
Keep looking. She's out there. ;)
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Re: TOO NICE? WHAT THE FFFF IS THAT?
Tue, March 8, 2005 - 12:26 PMright i hear you. well as long as you are nice and have confidence so girls can see that about you then you should be cool. cus its true. there are alot of girls out there that want nice guys. lol but also realise that some of them may not be the beauty queens that you want. lol. sometimes that can be a problem too. some of the average people have the best hearts and will like a nice guy and LOTSA sex too! =)
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Re: TOO NICE? WHAT THE FFFF IS THAT?
Tue, March 8, 2005 - 12:42 AMOkay, first of all, it's not the nice guy versus the asshole. That's a misconception. It may seem like the truth of things, but it's certain characteristics of nice guys versus certain characteristics of assholes that are the reality.
They are self-confidence and assertiveness. Nice guys are too worried about offending or just shy enough to NOT ask or NOT assert themselves. Nice guys frequently are nice because they want people to like them. That need can spring from a lack of self confidence.
Assholes are assertive for a number of reasons, and seem to drip with self confidence, however misplaced it might be. It is these qualities which make the members of the opposite sex, both male and female take notice.
We as humans are drawn to self-confidence. We tend to acquiesce to assertiveness. IF I turn to someone randomly and ask them politely, yet firmly to pick something up, 9 times out of 10 they do it. When I ask a woman to come walk with me, she does. I am a gentleman. But, that does not mean I am a pushover. I do what I want, as long as it doesn't hurt or offend others.
You can be polite and assertive. You can be self-confident without being an asshole. You can be firm without being demanding, and you can ask for what you want without seeming needy.
And it is NOT that women are attracted to guys who don't want them. It is that women are attracted to the power that a man has when he can turn and walk away. Not that you ever need to use it, but just that you have it.
And if "getting laid" is your goal. Don't want it. I don't mean don't act like you want it. I mean precisely what I said. Don't want sex. IF the only reason you want to spend time with a woman is to "get laid", then they will know and you will be filed away with the nameless thousands of horny fools who treat women like chattel. Rather find those amazing qualities of the women you have the pleasure of keeping company with and revel in them.
Why should they sleep with you? What do you offer that a hundred other men won't also offer them? What is it that makes you special? And worthy? If you don't know, find it. Once you find it, believe it.
Be ready to NOT have sex. Better yet, be ready to have a wonderful time and just go home. And if you want to talk to someone, go talk to them. If you want to kiss them, ask them if you can. If you wish to play with them, ask. I don't care how modern or progressive or different you might think the dating scene is, an assertive, confident man will always do better than a shy, nice guy who doesn't ask. And a gentleman will do better than an asshole in the long run.
one of my favorite quotes from one of my favorite movies - "The world is full of guys, Lloyd. Be a man." -
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Sat, March 12, 2005 - 3:36 PMYou are 100% right. I wanna get laid too, but I also want what I saw in one of the two clips from the movie SIDEWAYS I saw on Academy Awards night---a woman talking to me with real passion about something she gives a shit about. In that fictional case it was wine, but it works for just about anything.
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Wow. Pardon me while I ramble...
Mon, March 14, 2005 - 2:10 PMBelieve it or not, I don't consider myself a feminist. That being said...
Women ARE given the impression that intelligence is offensive to men on some level. Even great guys with wonderful minds and big hearts perpetuate this- and women do it to other women too. It's the "boys don't cry" of the female gender. It's amazing, when you really stop to think about it, how deep this problem goes.
A lot of women(men too, but we're talking about girls here and I think the problem is bigger there) don't even consider the *possibility* of having an interest or a passion. Consider this honestly- maybe not your perspective but the perspective of the general public- a boy nerd in high school, painfully backwards and super smart. What can he 'become'? A techie, a scientist, a doctor, a professor, or some other relatively prestigious outcome(of course we know that's not necessarily the case, but disclaimers aside, again, we're going for mainstream thought here). Now think of the same features in a young girl. What does she become? A librarian- service capacity. A teacher- but not necessarily a professor. Maybe just a kooky old lady with too many cats.
I hate saying things like 'society does this to us' because there are always exceptions and there ARE woman out there completely capable of talking about their passions and interests in an intelligent manner. But a great deal of women unknowingly mute themselves not only outwardly, but inwardly.
Knowing this, it's my feeling that men not only need to try to GET the woman to talk about her interests(have you ASKED her?), or see if she's interested in fostering some in herself. If not, then the problem is motivation, not intelligence. And that happens with both sexes.
I know a lot of guys who's interests rarely go further than playstation and tabletop gaming. That's a search many people struggle through, methinks. -
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Sat, March 19, 2005 - 10:40 AMI'm listening, FM. I went to see "Sideways". LOL...I had a friend like the guy getting married in the movie, in high school. When the first Star Wars movie came out in 1977 he convinced me to see it 10 times because there was some girl he wanted me to meet. I can't really remember what the deal with that was, but I did manage to kill that "friendship", I was just too convenient as the "friend" with the car...
The trend, in some places, towards girls-only schools is a good one I think, if we want girls to grow up to be all they can or want to be....
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